thank you for being with us. you think at the time of the donation he knew they were linked to hamas? >> probably not. there was plenty of evidence for people who wanted to find it. he probably thought he was giving to a orphanage. when the prosecutor shut it down by the government, attorney general john ashcroft said they had duped a lot of people. >> they did dupe a lot of people. but it raises a lot of questions about gamal. we know that he's had 7 run ins with the authorities. he's been charged with soliciting prostitute in his life. there are serious questions. he will not talk to fox. he is mum about it what have you found about it. >> not so much about el-gamal. he's had legal problems. people in the new york media found that . his inability to come clean about where they will get the money is troubling. that is an ongoing theme throughout this situation. >> let's say he didn't know and he was giving money to a group linked to hamas. is this still grounds to say we don't want to have a mosque build near 9/